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HARDENBERG KARL AUGUST VON: (1750-1822) Prussian statesman who served as Prime Minister of Prussia
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HARDENBERG KARL AUGUST VON: (1750-1822) Prussian statesman who served as Prime Minister of Prussia 1804-06, 1807 & 1810-22. A fine, lengthy A.L.S., Hardenberg, four pages, 4to, Berlin, 25th December 1810, to the Marquis [de Bombelles], in French. Hardenberg acknowledges receipt of his correspondent's letter, and thanks the Marquis for their sentiments and friendship, further remarking 'Dans une position aussi difficile que la notre, avec des obligations enormes a remplir pour sauver l'etat, il n'est pas possible, ni d'eviter les charges et les mesures onereuses, ni de prevenir les murmures et le mecontentement. Il ne s'agit que de trouver les moindres maux d'entre ceux qui sont indispensables et certes, le sort d'un administrateur n'est pas digne d'envie, qui est destine a remplir cette tache desagreable' (Translation: 'In a position as difficult as ours, with enormous obligations to fulfil in order to save the state, it is not possible either to avoid burdensome charges and measures, or to prevent murmurings and discontent. It is only a question of finding the lesser evils of those which are indispensable and certainly, the fate of an administrator is not worthy of envy, who is destined to fulfil this unpleasant task') and continuing to reflect 'Vous n'avez pas d'idee, Monsieur le Marquis, combien mon coeur en souffre et j'ai besoin de me rappeler a toute heure, que nous ne devons ecouter que notre devoir et ne pas nous refuser a suffire a notre vocation......Qu'il y ait des plaintes ameres sur les nouveaux Edits, - je m'y suis attendu, mais on les trouvera moins onereux, on en sera plus satisfait, quand on sera a meme de juger de l'Ensemble du systeme, lorsque nombre de mesentendus seront leves et que les preventions seront refutees par l'experience; que les modifications, nullement exclues d'apres ce qu'exigent des circonstances locales ou particulieres, auront eu lieu. De toutes les provinces de la monarchie, la Silesie aura moins raison de se plaindre, que toute autre. Jusqu'a ce que tout ceci puisse avoir lieu, il faut de l'obeissance et de la confiance dans le Gouvernment..... Quant a la suppression des communautes religieuses, elle frappe a la fois celles de la religion protestante comme celles des catholiques, elle est generale et dictee par la necessite. On n'a qu'a lire fugitivement l´Edit pour se convaincre que ni l'essentiel de la religion, ni la liberte de conscience, ne peuvent en souffrir…..La meme mesure a ete prise souvent et presque generalement dans les Etats purement catholiques, les Papes meme en ont donne frequemment l'exemple. Si en l'executant, on s'est ecarte de la teneur claire de l'edit et des intentions du Roi, c'est uniquement la faute de ceux qui sont appeles par un devoir sacre a y veiller et a s'y conformer' (Translation: 'You have no idea, Monsieur le Marquis, how much my heart suffers from it and I need to remind myself at all times that we must only listen to our duty and not refuse to fulfil our vocation…..That there will be bitter complaints about the new Edicts, - I expected it, but they will be found less burdensome, we will be more satisfied, when we will be able to judge the whole of the system, when many misunderstandings will be cleared up and the prejudices will be refuted by experience; that the modifications, by no means excluded according to what local or particular circumstances require, will have taken place. Of all the provinces of the monarchy, Silesia will have less reason to complain than any other. Until all this can take place, obedience and confidence in the Government are necessary…..As for the suppression of religious communities, it strikes both those of the Protestant religion as well as those of the Catholics, it is general and dictated by necessity. We only have to read the Edict fleetingly, to convince ourselves that neither the essentials of religion, nor freedom of conscience, can suffer from it……The same measure has been taken often and almost generally in purely Catholic states, even the Popes have frequently given the example. If, in executing it, we have deviated from the clear content of the edict and from the King's intentions, it is solely the fault of those who are called by a sacred duty to watch over it and to comply with it'). Hardenberg continues to reassure his correspondent regarding some misinformation and the proposed granting of a title, 'J'estime et j'honore, Mr. de Massow. Son autorite est et sera augmentee, il est a la tete de la commission chargee de la suppression des couvents; et j'ai envie de croire qu'on vous a donne des informations fausses, Monsieur le Marquis.....Ce sont eux, que je viens egalement de charger de la recherche des faits dont vous me parlez. Quelle que soit du reste ma consideration pour Mr. de Massow, je n'ai pu proposer au Roi de lui accorder la distinction dont vous faites mention......parce qu'en general, le Roi, entre nous soit dit, n'aime pas trop a donner cette sorte de distinctions. Je n'oublierai pas d'en procurer d'autres a M. de M. quand les circonstances seront favorables, soyez-en sur' (Translation: 'I esteem and honour Mr. de Massow. His authority is and will be increased, he is at the head of the commission in charge of the suppression of the convents; and I want to believe that you have been given false information, Monsieur le Marquis…..They are the ones I have also just entrusted with the investigation of the facts you are telling me about. Whatever may be my consideration for Mr. de Massow, I could not propose to the King to grant him the distinction which you mention……because in general, the King, between us is said, does not like to give these kinds of distinctions. I will not forget to procure others for M. de M. when circumstances are favourable, be sure of that'). A letter of excellent content. Some very light, minor creasing to the edges and a couple of small tears to the upper edges (professionally repaired). About VGMarc Marie, Marquis de Bombelles (1744-1822) French diplomat and ecclesiastic who, at the time of the present letter, had become a priest in Prussian Silesia.Julius Eberhard von Massow (1750-1816) Prussian lawyer and politician, responsible for the spiritual affairs of certain Prussian provinces.
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HARDENBERG KARL AUGUST VON: (1750-1822) Prussian statesman who served as Prime Minister of Prussia 1804-06, 1807 & 1810-22. A fine, lengthy A.L.S., Hardenberg, four pages, 4to, Berlin, 25th December 1810, to the Marquis [de Bombelles], in French. Hardenberg acknowledges receipt of his correspondent's letter, and thanks the Marquis for their sentiments and friendship, further remarking 'Dans une position aussi difficile que la notre, avec des obligations enormes a remplir pour sauver l'etat, il n'est pas possible, ni d'eviter les charges et les mesures onereuses, ni de prevenir les murmures et le mecontentement. Il ne s'agit que de trouver les moindres maux d'entre ceux qui sont indispensables et certes, le sort d'un administrateur n'est pas digne d'envie, qui est destine a remplir cette tache desagreable' (Translation: 'In a position as difficult as ours, with enormous obligations to fulfil in order to save the state, it is not possible either to avoid burdensome charges and measures, or to prevent murmurings and discontent. It is only a question of finding the lesser evils of those which are indispensable and certainly, the fate of an administrator is not worthy of envy, who is destined to fulfil this unpleasant task') and continuing to reflect 'Vous n'avez pas d'idee, Monsieur le Marquis, combien mon coeur en souffre et j'ai besoin de me rappeler a toute heure, que nous ne devons ecouter que notre devoir et ne pas nous refuser a suffire a notre vocation......Qu'il y ait des plaintes ameres sur les nouveaux Edits, - je m'y suis attendu, mais on les trouvera moins onereux, on en sera plus satisfait, quand on sera a meme de juger de l'Ensemble du systeme, lorsque nombre de mesentendus seront leves et que les preventions seront refutees par l'experience; que les modifications, nullement exclues d'apres ce qu'exigent des circonstances locales ou particulieres, auront eu lieu. De toutes les provinces de la monarchie, la Silesie aura moins raison de se plaindre, que toute autre. Jusqu'a ce que tout ceci puisse avoir lieu, il faut de l'obeissance et de la confiance dans le Gouvernment..... Quant a la suppression des communautes religieuses, elle frappe a la fois celles de la religion protestante comme celles des catholiques, elle est generale et dictee par la necessite. On n'a qu'a lire fugitivement l´Edit pour se convaincre que ni l'essentiel de la religion, ni la liberte de conscience, ne peuvent en souffrir…..La meme mesure a ete prise souvent et presque generalement dans les Etats purement catholiques, les Papes meme en ont donne frequemment l'exemple. Si en l'executant, on s'est ecarte de la teneur claire de l'edit et des intentions du Roi, c'est uniquement la faute de ceux qui sont appeles par un devoir sacre a y veiller et a s'y conformer' (Translation: 'You have no idea, Monsieur le Marquis, how much my heart suffers from it and I need to remind myself at all times that we must only listen to our duty and not refuse to fulfil our vocation…..That there will be bitter complaints about the new Edicts, - I expected it, but they will be found less burdensome, we will be more satisfied, when we will be able to judge the whole of the system, when many misunderstandings will be cleared up and the prejudices will be refuted by experience; that the modifications, by no means excluded according to what local or particular circumstances require, will have taken place. Of all the provinces of the monarchy, Silesia will have less reason to complain than any other. Until all this can take place, obedience and confidence in the Government are necessary…..As for the suppression of religious communities, it strikes both those of the Protestant religion as well as those of the Catholics, it is general and dictated by necessity. We only have to read the Edict fleetingly, to convince ourselves that neither the essentials of religion, nor freedom of conscience, can suffer from it……The same measure has been taken often and almost generally in purely Catholic states, even the Popes have frequently given the example. If, in executing it, we have deviated from the clear content of the edict and from the King's intentions, it is solely the fault of those who are called by a sacred duty to watch over it and to comply with it'). Hardenberg continues to reassure his correspondent regarding some misinformation and the proposed granting of a title, 'J'estime et j'honore, Mr. de Massow. Son autorite est et sera augmentee, il est a la tete de la commission chargee de la suppression des couvents; et j'ai envie de croire qu'on vous a donne des informations fausses, Monsieur le Marquis.....Ce sont eux, que je viens egalement de charger de la recherche des faits dont vous me parlez. Quelle que soit du reste ma consideration pour Mr. de Massow, je n'ai pu proposer au Roi de lui accorder la distinction dont vous faites mention......parce qu'en general, le Roi, entre nous soit dit, n'aime pas trop a donner cette sorte de distinctions. Je n'oublierai pas d'en procurer d'autres a M. de M. quand les circonstances seront favorables, soyez-en sur' (Translation: 'I esteem and honour Mr. de Massow. His authority is and will be increased, he is at the head of the commission in charge of the suppression of the convents; and I want to believe that you have been given false information, Monsieur le Marquis…..They are the ones I have also just entrusted with the investigation of the facts you are telling me about. Whatever may be my consideration for Mr. de Massow, I could not propose to the King to grant him the distinction which you mention……because in general, the King, between us is said, does not like to give these kinds of distinctions. I will not forget to procure others for M. de M. when circumstances are favourable, be sure of that'). A letter of excellent content. Some very light, minor creasing to the edges and a couple of small tears to the upper edges (professionally repaired). About VGMarc Marie, Marquis de Bombelles (1744-1822) French diplomat and ecclesiastic who, at the time of the present letter, had become a priest in Prussian Silesia.Julius Eberhard von Massow (1750-1816) Prussian lawyer and politician, responsible for the spiritual affairs of certain Prussian provinces.
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